# Twenty or Krayin + n8n

A CRM you can fork, wired to n8n so the pipeline actually moves.

**Replaces:** HubSpot / Salesforce CRM

**Tier:** Medium

## Problem

HubSpot and Salesforce are operating systems pretending to be a contact list. You wanted stages, activities, and a webhook.

## Stack

- [Twenty](https://twenty.com/pricing) — Open-source CRM
- [Krayin CRM](https://krayincrm.com/) — Laravel CRM alternative
- [n8n](https://n8n.io/) — Deal won → invoice / Slack / Resend

## Estimated SaaS cost saved

| You stop paying | Typical / year | Self-host instead |
|---|---:|---|
| HubSpot Starter / Professional | $4,800 | Twenty + n8n |
| Salesforce Essentials | $6,000 | Krayin + n8n |

**About $4,800 / year** on a small team, before you count lock-in.

## Deploy on Railway

Placeholder: Twenty (or Krayin) + n8n. Medium; expect a day of field mapping.

## AGENT_PROMPT

```
Replace HubSpot/Salesforce with Twenty (preferred) or Krayin CRM, plus n8n.

- Model companies, people, and one pipeline that matches how the team actually sells.
- n8n: new inbound form → CRM record; stage=won → Resend + Slack.
- Import CSV from HubSpot. Do not recreate every custom object on day one.
```

## FAQ

### Twenty vs Krayin?

Twenty if you want the modern UX and a TypeScript codebase. Krayin if you already live in Laravel.

Source: https://c17.io/stacks/twenty-crm